Comments on: A vision for the future: Using technology to improve the cost-effectiveness of the academy: Part 2 http://www.tonybates.ca/2009/10/14/a-vision-for-the-future-using-technology-to-improve-the-cost-effectiveness-of-the-academy-part-2/ Sat, 13 Mar 2010 20:11:55 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: The bureaucratic model and the grammar and future of universities http://www.tonybates.ca/2009/10/14/a-vision-for-the-future-using-technology-to-improve-the-cost-effectiveness-of-the-academy-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-19556 The bureaucratic model and the grammar and future of universities Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:11:12 +0000 http://www.tonybates.ca/?p=2480#comment-19556 [...] Bates has recently posted the second of his blog posts title Using technology to improve the cost-effectiveness of the academy: Part 2 within which he gives his vision for the future of [...] [...] Bates has recently posted the second of his blog posts title Using technology to improve the cost-effectiveness of the academy: Part 2 within which he gives his vision for the future of [...]

]]> By: Barriers to change: Using technology to improve the cost-effectiveness of the academy: Part 3 « Tony Bates http://www.tonybates.ca/2009/10/14/a-vision-for-the-future-using-technology-to-improve-the-cost-effectiveness-of-the-academy-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-18671 Barriers to change: Using technology to improve the cost-effectiveness of the academy: Part 3 « Tony Bates Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:40:49 +0000 http://www.tonybates.ca/?p=2480#comment-18671 [...] the second post in this series (A vision for the future: Using technology to improve the cost-effectiveness of the academy: Part 2) , I argued that we needed new visions for the university that tried to deal with the challenge by [...] [...] the second post in this series (A vision for the future: Using technology to improve the cost-effectiveness of the academy: Part 2) , I argued that we needed new visions for the university that tried to deal with the challenge by [...]

]]> By: The bureaucratic model and the grammar and future of universities « The Weblog of (a) David Jones http://www.tonybates.ca/2009/10/14/a-vision-for-the-future-using-technology-to-improve-the-cost-effectiveness-of-the-academy-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-18639 The bureaucratic model and the grammar and future of universities « The Weblog of (a) David Jones Mon, 26 Oct 2009 02:39:53 +0000 http://www.tonybates.ca/?p=2480#comment-18639 [...] Bates has recently posted the second of his blog posts title Using technology to improve the cost-effectiveness of the academy: Part 2 within which he gives his vision for the future of [...] [...] Bates has recently posted the second of his blog posts title Using technology to improve the cost-effectiveness of the academy: Part 2 within which he gives his vision for the future of [...]

]]> By: Media Literacy: Making Sense Of New Technologies And Media by George Siemens – Oct 17 09 | Happened Lately http://www.tonybates.ca/2009/10/14/a-vision-for-the-future-using-technology-to-improve-the-cost-effectiveness-of-the-academy-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-18435 Media Literacy: Making Sense Of New Technologies And Media by George Siemens – Oct 17 09 | Happened Lately Fri, 23 Oct 2009 04:43:22 +0000 http://www.tonybates.ca/?p=2480#comment-18435 [...] – Tony Bates explores using technology to improve the cost-effectiveness of the academy (and part 2). Toward the end of the second post, Tony offers a series of 10 implications. I generally agree [...] [...] – Tony Bates explores using technology to improve the cost-effectiveness of the academy (and part 2). Toward the end of the second post, Tony offers a series of 10 implications. I generally agree [...]

]]> By: Technology and the future of Higher Education | The midden http://www.tonybates.ca/2009/10/14/a-vision-for-the-future-using-technology-to-improve-the-cost-effectiveness-of-the-academy-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-18295 Technology and the future of Higher Education | The midden Tue, 20 Oct 2009 12:10:24 +0000 http://www.tonybates.ca/?p=2480#comment-18295 [...] 2 posts (Part 1 and Part 2) by Tony Bates, consider the need for change in Higher Education and the role that technology has [...] [...] 2 posts (Part 1 and Part 2) by Tony Bates, consider the need for change in Higher Education and the role that technology has [...]

]]> By: Will Stewart http://www.tonybates.ca/2009/10/14/a-vision-for-the-future-using-technology-to-improve-the-cost-effectiveness-of-the-academy-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-18289 Will Stewart Tue, 20 Oct 2009 09:54:41 +0000 http://www.tonybates.ca/?p=2480#comment-18289 Thanks for these really interesting postings, Tony. I agree with pretty much everything you discuss in both Part 1 and Part 2. Universities have embraced technology to maintain the status quo with regard to curriculum design and pedgagogy. The biggest barrier to change, apart from the institutional systems, is the assessment model. We still employ a one-size-fits-all model, rather than allowing students to determine their own way of showing us what they have learned. Until we change this, and put the onus on the student to demonstrate what they have learned and to what level, then it will be very difficult to change the other structure needed to bring about the changes you talk about. I also feel that, in moving to a new student-centred model, there would be a need for a huge re-training programme as most academics would be at sea under a new system that moved them outside their own experience. In implementing a new model, it would be imperative that the quality of teaching and learning could be shown to be higher than in the old traditional model. Not all academics are motivated and inspiring teachers. I also feel that it is likely that there will always be a niche for traditional universities - not all students want to take responsibility for their own learning and will pay good money to be part of a teacher-centred institution rather than a learner-centred one. Thanks for these really interesting postings, Tony. I agree with pretty much everything you discuss in both Part 1 and Part 2. Universities have embraced technology to maintain the status quo with regard to curriculum design and pedgagogy. The biggest barrier to change, apart from the institutional systems, is the assessment model. We still employ a one-size-fits-all model, rather than allowing students to determine their own way of showing us what they have learned. Until we change this, and put the onus on the student to demonstrate what they have learned and to what level, then it will be very difficult to change the other structure needed to bring about the changes you talk about.

I also feel that, in moving to a new student-centred model, there would be a need for a huge re-training programme as most academics would be at sea under a new system that moved them outside their own experience. In implementing a new model, it would be imperative that the quality of teaching and learning could be shown to be higher than in the old traditional model. Not all academics are motivated and inspiring teachers.

I also feel that it is likely that there will always be a niche for traditional universities – not all students want to take responsibility for their own learning and will pay good money to be part of a teacher-centred institution rather than a learner-centred one.

]]> By: A vision for the future: Using technology to improve the cost … :: Edits.me – Blogging about technology http://www.tonybates.ca/2009/10/14/a-vision-for-the-future-using-technology-to-improve-the-cost-effectiveness-of-the-academy-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-17991 A vision for the future: Using technology to improve the cost … :: Edits.me – Blogging about technology Wed, 14 Oct 2009 23:22:25 +0000 http://www.tonybates.ca/?p=2480#comment-17991 [...] than traditional universities, even on the basis of cost per … View original post here: A vision for the future: Using technology to improve the cost … Categories : Cool gadgets, Tech [...] [...] than traditional universities, even on the basis of cost per … View original post here: A vision for the future: Using technology to improve the cost … Categories : Cool gadgets, Tech [...]

]]> By: Daniel Christian http://www.tonybates.ca/2009/10/14/a-vision-for-the-future-using-technology-to-improve-the-cost-effectiveness-of-the-academy-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-17983 Daniel Christian Wed, 14 Oct 2009 21:24:58 +0000 http://www.tonybates.ca/?p=2480#comment-17983 Thanks Tony for your well-thought out/written posting here. I continue to consider different models for higher education, and I would like to see us cut the cost of getting an education by 50% or more...which I easily see happening if the current trends continue. Two pages that I've created and continue to add to that you and your readers might be interested in: <b>http://www.calvin.edu/~dsc8/visions.htm (parts I-VI) (especially relevant here is http://www.calvin.edu/~dsc8/visions.htm#newTLModel)</b> and <b>http://www.calvin.edu/~dsc8/walmartofeducation.htm</b> Thanks, Daniel Christian Multimedia Specialist Teaching & Learning Group Calvin College Thanks Tony for your well-thought out/written posting here. I continue to consider different models for higher education, and I would like to see us cut the cost of getting an education by 50% or more…which I easily see happening if the current trends continue.

Two pages that I’ve created and continue to add to that you and your readers might be interested in:
http://www.calvin.edu/~dsc8/visions.htm (parts I-VI) (especially relevant here is http://www.calvin.edu/~dsc8/visions.htm#newTLModel)
and
http://www.calvin.edu/~dsc8/walmartofeducation.htm

Thanks,
Daniel Christian
Multimedia Specialist
Teaching & Learning Group
Calvin College

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