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	<title>Comments on: Low use of web 2.0 in e-learning</title>
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		<title>By: Horacio</title>
		<link>http://www.tonybates.ca/2009/11/28/low-use-of-web-2-0-in-e-learning/comment-page-1/#comment-22393</link>
		<dc:creator>Horacio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 15:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not all. Check Accord LMS (http://tiny.cc/AccordLMS) features and its use use of web 2.0. Don&#039;t miss the demo site, true integration with chat, forums, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not all. Check Accord LMS (<a href="http://tiny.cc/AccordLMS" rel="nofollow">http://tiny.cc/AccordLMS</a>) features and its use use of web 2.0. Don&#8217;t miss the demo site, true integration with chat, forums, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony McCune</title>
		<link>http://www.tonybates.ca/2009/11/28/low-use-of-web-2-0-in-e-learning/comment-page-1/#comment-22112</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony McCune</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 22:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No question that traditional LMS and LCMS is stuck in Web 1.0.  We ignored LMS competitors when designing www.DigitalChalk.com and focused on delivering multimedia.  Three years later we still don&#039;t see much happening with rich media in the market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No question that traditional LMS and LCMS is stuck in Web 1.0.  We ignored LMS competitors when designing <a href="http://www.DigitalChalk.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.DigitalChalk.com</a> and focused on delivering multimedia.  Three years later we still don&#8217;t see much happening with rich media in the market.</p>
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		<title>By: theron</title>
		<link>http://www.tonybates.ca/2009/11/28/low-use-of-web-2-0-in-e-learning/comment-page-1/#comment-22015</link>
		<dc:creator>theron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 22:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Chronicle is navel-gazing again. The understandable but unexamined assumption of this article is that online education only occurs in traditional schools. The lack of imagination of traditional schools is old news evidenced by their continued attempts to move the traditional classroom to online environments. This is just one, narrow, way to look at online education. Web 2.0 learning is growing and credentialing (Western Governor&#039;s?) is evolving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Chronicle is navel-gazing again. The understandable but unexamined assumption of this article is that online education only occurs in traditional schools. The lack of imagination of traditional schools is old news evidenced by their continued attempts to move the traditional classroom to online environments. This is just one, narrow, way to look at online education. Web 2.0 learning is growing and credentialing (Western Governor&#8217;s?) is evolving.</p>
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		<title>By: Glen</title>
		<link>http://www.tonybates.ca/2009/11/28/low-use-of-web-2-0-in-e-learning/comment-page-1/#comment-22013</link>
		<dc:creator>Glen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 22:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Snip...That contrasts with what you find on the programs of distance-learning conferences, where the talk is often about Web 2.0 technology that allows students to interact with the content or the provider in tangible ways....&quot;

Of course, most of those distance learning conferences are mounted as f2f events with Yeti sized carbon footprints and very un-Web2.0 no matter how profusely the Twitter stream flows on the big screen monitor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Snip&#8230;That contrasts with what you find on the programs of distance-learning conferences, where the talk is often about Web 2.0 technology that allows students to interact with the content or the provider in tangible ways&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course, most of those distance learning conferences are mounted as f2f events with Yeti sized carbon footprints and very un-Web2.0 no matter how profusely the Twitter stream flows on the big screen monitor.</p>
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		<title>By: Pedro Fernández Michels</title>
		<link>http://www.tonybates.ca/2009/11/28/low-use-of-web-2-0-in-e-learning/comment-page-1/#comment-21843</link>
		<dc:creator>Pedro Fernández Michels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 00:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been recently engaged with the European project eJump 2.0 that deals with capacity building for teachers in terms of Web 2.0 tools. 3 online courses were designed in order to engage a selected group of teachers from Europe and Asia in a pilot run with different aspects of the use of these tools. My personal experience as one of the course creators and tutors was, among others, the identification of several drawbacks. The mentioned course can be roughly described as an attempt to confront Web 2.0 affordances with the context of a comprehensive e-course design. Here the main problems the way I experienced them:
a) How to assure effective communication and collaboration in several different Web-spaces?
b) How to avoid disorientation in scattered environments?
c) How to justify the replication of functions that are already given in a “closed” and controllable LMS?
d) How to justify the increased technological variety and the subsequent need of &quot;learning the technology&quot; before &quot;learning what was inteded to be learned&quot;? 
e) How to justify the supposed need for openness in a determined pedagogical context? 
f) How to justify a supposed need for openness widening the audience towards a anonymous mass instead of keeping it within a limited context?

Pedro</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been recently engaged with the European project eJump 2.0 that deals with capacity building for teachers in terms of Web 2.0 tools. 3 online courses were designed in order to engage a selected group of teachers from Europe and Asia in a pilot run with different aspects of the use of these tools. My personal experience as one of the course creators and tutors was, among others, the identification of several drawbacks. The mentioned course can be roughly described as an attempt to confront Web 2.0 affordances with the context of a comprehensive e-course design. Here the main problems the way I experienced them:<br />
a) How to assure effective communication and collaboration in several different Web-spaces?<br />
b) How to avoid disorientation in scattered environments?<br />
c) How to justify the replication of functions that are already given in a “closed” and controllable LMS?<br />
d) How to justify the increased technological variety and the subsequent need of &#8220;learning the technology&#8221; before &#8220;learning what was inteded to be learned&#8221;?<br />
e) How to justify the supposed need for openness in a determined pedagogical context?<br />
f) How to justify a supposed need for openness widening the audience towards a anonymous mass instead of keeping it within a limited context?</p>
<p>Pedro</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://www.tonybates.ca/2009/11/28/low-use-of-web-2-0-in-e-learning/comment-page-1/#comment-21191</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spot on,
The real goal for me is to access good teachers whose pupils would benefit from e-learning strategies.  It is also about accessing struggling teachers who would benefit from deploying an e-Learning framework as a way to audit their teaching altogether...From Schemes of works onwards...  

The problem is those who use a lot of technology (without having any impact on learning) and who scare the good teachers by pushing e-learning as an add-on to teaching rather than a student focused learning tool to make learning more effective.

Low use of Web 2.0 is indeed counter productive!

DE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spot on,<br />
The real goal for me is to access good teachers whose pupils would benefit from e-learning strategies.  It is also about accessing struggling teachers who would benefit from deploying an e-Learning framework as a way to audit their teaching altogether&#8230;From Schemes of works onwards&#8230;  </p>
<p>The problem is those who use a lot of technology (without having any impact on learning) and who scare the good teachers by pushing e-learning as an add-on to teaching rather than a student focused learning tool to make learning more effective.</p>
<p>Low use of Web 2.0 is indeed counter productive!</p>
<p>DE</p>
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		<title>By: Jesper</title>
		<link>http://www.tonybates.ca/2009/11/28/low-use-of-web-2-0-in-e-learning/comment-page-1/#comment-21180</link>
		<dc:creator>Jesper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 21:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting read! Not only this article, but your entire blog. 

Regards
Jesper</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting read! Not only this article, but your entire blog. </p>
<p>Regards<br />
Jesper</p>
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